As Christians, we are commanded to “test all things; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21) and to approach bold claims with the discernment of Bereans, who examined the Scriptures daily to see if what they were told was true (Acts 17:11). In an age of deception and secrecy, this is more critical than ever. The interview between Tucker Carlson and Catherine Austin Fitts invites exactly that kind of examination.

Carlson offers space for a guest with both government experience and financial expertise to lay out a series of claims — some documented, others speculative — about the global financial system, secret military infrastructure, and elite planning that reaches into areas like underground networks and even space. Whether one accepts every conclusion or not, the scope and seriousness of the discussion demand our attention.

We encourage you to watch the full interview on YouTube and follow Tucker Carlson’s growing body of independent journalism, then weigh the claims carefully in light of Scripture, evidence, and prayerful consideration.

0:00 Introduction Tucker Carlson opens his riveting conversation with Catherine Austin Fitts by declaring it one of the most enlightening interviews he’s ever done… 

What Catherine Austin Fitts Revealed to Tucker Carlson

**0:00 Introduction**
Tucker Carlson opens his riveting conversation with Catherine Austin Fitts by declaring it one of the most enlightening interviews he’s ever done. Fitts, a former Assistant Secretary of Housing and a long-time financial investigator, brings decades of insight into how global systems of finance, governance, and secrecy interact to control national destinies. She doesn’t offer mere speculation — her claims are grounded in exhaustive documentation, decades of research, and first-hand government experience.

**1:11 The Attempts to Control the World’s Currency**
Fitts argues that the central banking cartel has systematically engineered global crises to consolidate control over money and governance. The goal? Establish a centralized digital currency and replace cash. She points to the 2008 financial crisis and COVID-19 as major accelerants. She explains how these events allowed the elite to bypass public debate, implement control systems, and push society toward a cashless surveillance economy.

**12:09 The Two Things That Lead to Inflation**
Here, Fitts breaks down what drives inflation. She says it’s not simply about supply and demand or interest rates. She outlines how inflation is weaponized: (1) by increasing the money supply while hiding monetary inflation through off-book funding, and (2) by manipulating essential goods markets (like energy and food) via geopolitical strategies. This gives central banks and their partners enormous leverage over populations.

**16:17 Central Bankers vs. the West**
Tucker and Fitts explore the idea that central banks — operating transnationally — are at odds with Western democratic ideals. Fitts sees these institutions as hostile to sovereignty and freedom. She says central banks are now engaged in a war against the people, especially those in the West, as they try to dissolve national borders and install global control mechanisms, such as social credit systems and digital IDs.

**25:01 What You Should Know About the Bank of International Settlements**
Fitts calls the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) in Basel, Switzerland, “the central bank of central banks.” She describes it as operating above the law, immune to national oversight, and a key hub in executing the globalist agenda. According to her, the BIS is central to designing systems of financial control that affect every citizen on earth, often without their knowledge.

**29:48 The Banker’s Plan to Conquer Space**
One of the more provocative segments, Fitts outlines a bizarre but fascinating theory: central bankers want to conquer space to escape accountability on Earth. Space, in her view, becomes a financial frontier where global elites can hide assets, develop untouchable technology, and even experiment with off-world governance structures. She argues that enormous resources have already been allocated to this end under the guise of defense and exploration.

**32:27 Are We Approaching an Extinction Event?**
Fitts claims that elite planning has moved from climate change to extinction-level event scenarios. She doesn’t name a specific catastrophe, but emphasizes the scale and urgency with which elites are preparing. The proof, she says, is in the trillions of dollars spent on covert infrastructure, private security, and the creation of secluded havens. This sets the stage for what she describes next.

**35:57 Secret Underground Bases All Across the US**
This is the heart of the interview. Fitts claims that as much as $21 trillion has gone missing from government accounts — much of it unaccounted for through HUD and the Department of Defense. She believes this money funded at least 170 Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) across the U.S. and beneath oceans. These bases are said to be connected by high-speed rail systems, powered by secret energy sources, and built to withstand massive disasters.

**44:49 The Government’s Secret Energy Sources**
Fitts suggests that classified breakthroughs in energy technology — possibly zero-point or cold fusion — are already in use. These undisclosed sources could revolutionize public energy use, but remain hidden to maintain economic monopolies and secrecy surrounding DUMBs. Tucker supports the plausibility by referencing people he knows who’ve worked on secret White House exit infrastructure.

**56:42 Who Are the Masterminds Behind the Central Banks?**
Fitts is careful not to name names, but she emphasizes that the masterminds are unelected, largely unknown figures who operate through institutions like BIS, the IMF, and private banking families. She compares the global financial system to organized crime, with a structure so opaque that most people can’t even trace who profits from massive shifts in power and wealth.

**58:26 The Real Reason American Universities Are Failing**
Fitts claims the university system has been intentionally hollowed out. Once training grounds for free thinkers and civic leaders, they now function as indoctrination centers for centralized control ideologies. Their failure to teach critical thinking is not accidental — it’s strategic. Tucker adds that American academia is designed to eliminate dissent and punish curiosity.

**1:06:25 The Global Depopulation Plan**
This topic flows from earlier ones: if the elite are planning for catastrophe, they are also planning for population control. Fitts points to digital ID systems, medical mandates, and engineered food and water shortages as evidence. The goal isn’t just survival of the elite, but control of whoever remains.

**1:13:20 The Housing Crisis**
Fitts connects the housing crisis to financial warfare. She argues that private equity giants, often backed by government money, are buying up residential property and making home ownership unattainable for average citizens. This is part of a broader plan to move people into “smart cities” where every action is tracked and controlled.

**1:24:40 How to Stay Joyful in Dark Times**
Despite the heavy themes, Fitts offers hope. She encourages people to unplug from centralized systems, build local economies, grow food, and invest in community. Joy, she says, is a form of resistance. She sees a spiritual war underway and urges people to stay grounded in truth, faith, and fellowship.

**1:25:37 The Missing $21 Trillion**
Returning to a foundational theme, Fitts reminds viewers that the missing trillions are not a mystery — they are misallocated with intent. The lack of accountability in both military and housing departments suggests collusion at the highest levels. She implores Americans to demand forensic audits and transparency, especially since this hidden money is likely what funds the infrastructure of elite survival.

**1:30:30 America’s Debt Is a Symptom of Something Much Bigger**
The ballooning national debt is not just an economic issue, Fitts says — it’s evidence of a captured government. The debt is used as a control mechanism, driving dependency on central banks, forcing tax increases, and justifying austerity. It’s a strategy to hollow out the nation from within.

**1:39:36 Global Money Laundering**
In the final thematic segment, Fitts asserts that much of what is called “foreign aid” or “defense contracting” is simply money laundering. Vast sums disappear through opaque international deals, with elites skimming profits and channeling funds back into their shadow projects.

**1:45:06 Where Can People Learn More About This?**
Fitts directs people to her website, The Solari Report (home.solari.com), and specifically to MissingMoney.Solari.com for documentation on the unaccounted $21 trillion. She also recommends books and resources like those by Richard Sauder, which explore the reality of underground infrastructure.

**Conclusion**
This interview wasn’t merely a deep dive into economics or government policy. It was a revelation. Catherine Austin Fitts connects the dots across finance, infrastructure, secrecy, and spiritual resilience. Whether every claim is fully provable or not, her thesis deserves serious scrutiny. She invites all Americans to wake up, investigate, and prepare — not just materially, but spiritually.

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