In this episode of United Patriots Uprising, Gary Binford welcomes Carl Jackson, host of The Carl Jackson Show, for a candid conversation about redemption, responsibility, and how everyday citizens can push back against runaway government. In this Carl Jackson interview, trace his journey from troubled teen to Christian conservative commentator—and to lay out a practical plan to rein in big government, fix healthcare, secure the border, and restore common sense.
Carl’s Turning Point: From Cultural Assumptions to Biblical Convictions
Carl grew up in Los Angeles assuming Democratic politics by default: “Everyone around me was a Democrat—it’s just how it was.” That began to change in 1999 as he came to faith in Christ and started testing political claims against Scripture and reality.
A key moment came during the Bush–Gore era when Carl heard abortion framed as a ‘right to choose.’ For the first time, he says, the moral stakes were unmistakable: protecting preborn life wasn’t a partisan talking point—it was a biblical issue.
How a Custody Fight Opened His Eyes to Big Government Overreach
Carl is upfront about his past: jail as a teen, a child out of wedlock, and years of personal struggle. What shook him most wasn’t a headline—it was the system. In a seven‑year custody battle, he says bureaucrats treated him like a case file, even placing him on child support while his daughter lived with him. That experience hardened his view that government had grown into a heavy‑handed referee deciding who could be a father and on what terms.
At the same time, he recalls overhearing mothers in a child‑support office coaching teens on how to ‘work the system’—a snapshot, in his view, of perverse incentives that punish responsibility and reward dependency.
Carl’s H.I.R.E.E. Agenda: Healthcare, Immigration, Regulation, Energy, Education
Carl boils his priorities down to a simple acronym—H.I.R.E.E.—and offers concrete fixes:
Healthcare: Put doctors and patients back in charge.
Carl argues Obamacare made care costlier and more bureaucratic, recounting how his PPO jumped from about $180/month to roughly $720/month, pushing him to go a decade without insurance until his wife’s job offered coverage. His fix: allow interstate competition, expand transparent cash‑price options, and cut red tape so clinicians spend more time with patients and less on paperwork.
Immigration: Enforce the law and end the chaos.
Carl supports prioritizing removals of criminal illegal aliens and restoring deterrence. He rejects the “city of immigrants” rhetoric that blurs citizenship, stressing assimilation and the rule of law. For those here illegally, he favors voluntary departure pathways that preserve the chance to return legally later.
Regulation: Shrink the state, unleash work.
From small business to family life, Carl says regulation has metastasized into soft coercion, nudging citizens toward dependency and away from responsibility. He backs across‑the‑board deregulation aligned with constitutional limits and common sense.
Energy: Abundance over austerity.
Carl favors American energy dominance and calls out the contradiction of demanding massive AI/data‑center growth while restricting reliable power. He views climate alarmism as a control lever that collapses under real‑world needs for electricity and minerals.
Education: Basics, not indoctrination.
He argues K‑12 and higher ed should produce critical thinkers, not ideological followers—pointing listeners to get kids out of failing systems, monitor curricula, and support genuine school choice.
Faith, Charlie Kirk, and Public Courage
Carl blends biblical conviction with political analysis on air, noting the influence of the late Charlie Kirk’s shift toward a more explicitly biblical worldview. The goal, he says, is not to win arguments but to disciple the public square—speaking truth with clarity and courage.
What You Can Do (In Plain English)
Carl’s advice is deliberately local and doable: start with sheriff, mayor, and county‑commission races. Ask of every policy: does it give individuals more freedom—or less? If less, oppose it, regardless of party label.
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Key Takeaways
- Testimony matters: Carl’s seven‑year custody fight shaped his view of government more than any headline.
- Healthcare reform must restore price competition and patient choice; red tape isn’t care.
- Borders, law, and citizenship aren’t anti‑immigrant—they’re pro‑order and pro‑assimilation.
- Energy abundance keeps promises about prosperity—scarcity feeds control.
- School choice and vigilant parents beat indoctrination.
- Local offices (sheriff, mayor, county commission) impact your freedom first—vote accordingly.
“Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.” — Proverbs 14:34
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